Religion was brought in by way of explanation. Asking someone else to defend their religion in this forum is inappropriate, and your use of language is belittling.
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I fail to see what was belittling but I apologize if I came across this way nevertheless. The idea wasnât to hurt anybody but to underline a couple of facts and I stand behind what I said earlier minus any potential words that might have triggered the feeling of belittling, of course. As I said, this is a mixed community and itâs best to leave personal believe systems out of it. At the end of the day, my view is nothing else but some form of faith as well, isnât it? Still, I wouldnât necessarily open a thread complaining about the consequences of my restrictions as a potentially lost soul.
Wait, did you flag my previous comment or something? Itâs greyed out. Wow. Just wowâŚ
âBut in your hearts revere Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have.â
1 Peter 3:15
I did grow up in the church and am Christian. And I am not opposed to anyone believing what they want to believe. But I believe that blindly following a commandment without any reason or rationale behind it is one of the most dangerous things a human can do. You are giving up the most basic functions that God gave you: moral agency and independent thought. Without some kind of foundation for the rule/commandment, how do you know that some human didnât just make it up to serve their own purpose? I often questioned stuff that my Sunday School teachers said, whether outloud or in my own head. Itâs healthy. I figure if what I am being told has substance, it should not be afraid to be questioned or provide some kind of reason.
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As far as using food in an unhealthy way, I used to abuse sugar and was fat and diabetic. So I understand the reason why some foods should not be consumed or consumed in excess due to the health consequences. I think MJN is just trying to get a reason at to why tea and coffee are harmful, at least in normal amounts. There is so much objective data showing that these are either neutral or beneficial to human health if drank in small or moderate amounts.
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If I say that Soylent adds 9 grams of sugar per bottle, no one bats an eye because itâs all part of the plan.
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Its the researching about part I was asking for.
I googled LDS+tea to find Covenants&Doctrines; read it first hand. I saw specific indications against hot drinks, specific indications against tobacco, and specific indications about who gets what grains and whether animals can be used for food (and when/how)
I know itâs pushing the limits of this forum to discuss the religious restriction on an ingredient, but as far as taboo subjects Huel forum regularly has topics about flatulence and bathroom experience. So I consider the main rule is to be respectful and mature about any topic. (Though i learned excessive silliness does get flagged)
The reason I keep asking about it is because if âteaâ isnât a hot beverage component of huel, and itâs the leaf of some plant âfeedsâ the kombucha bacteria similarly to corn feeding a pig or grass feeding a cow, the âhot beverageâ rule is very far from what this ingredient is in Huel. If the interpretation of scripture has scholars suggesting âtea and coffeeâ are out ⌠as beverage choices ⌠then is kombucha powder caught in a labelling/classification problem? Iâm asking because if an LDS authority were to assure you that there is a distinction between uses, you wouldnât have to say âGoodbye Huelâ
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Versions and flavours are different. Different versions have different ingredients and possible different supply chains whereas flavours the version is the same but the end process where flavours are added is the variation.
Completely agree and this is a great point. Please everyone keep this in mind when discussing.
Huel RTD is available without kombucha.
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@Hueler - I donât want to get into a discussion about religion as I was raised Catholic and now simply believe in what I know as my God and thank him for my health and every day my feet hit the floor. I donât practice Catholicism as there are many things I donât agree with.
With that, I think many religions are up for interpretation and I donât believe people should follow them blindly.
I donât know anything about âLatter-day Saintsâ but I did read this:
D&C 89:10. Wholesome Herbs Are Ordained for the Use of Man.
The word herb refers to vegetables and plants that are nourishing and healthful for man. Doctrine and Covenants 89:5â9 contains warnings against things not good for man, while verses 10â17 list the things that should be used to maintain good health. These âGod hath ordained for the constitution, nature, and use of manâ (v. 10).
Doesnât Green Tea come from a Plant? (Or the tea in Huel 3.0?)
Green tea is a type of tea that is made from Camellia sinensis leaves and buds that have not undergone the same withering and oxidation process used to make oolong teas and black teas.
Latter-day Saints talk about what is ânourishing and healthful for man.â So why canât they drink tea?
Green tea is the healthiest beverage on the planet. It is loaded with antioxidants and nutrients that have powerful effects on the body. These include improved brain function, fat loss, a lower risk of cancer and many other impressive benefits. [http://bit.ly/2rzO3Jo]
In Huel 3.0 there will now be âKombucha Tea Powderâ - I donât know what tea it is, but Iâm sure itâs ânourishing and healthful for man.â And, we are not drinking it âHot.â
If my Religion said simply, without all of the revisions 9 & 18 years later; (D&C 89:9) And again, hot drinks are not for the body or belly. Well, Iâm not drinking Huel âHotâ and itâs ânourishing and healthful for manâ - I would be all over it!
I get it if you want to stick to your beliefs and itâs 100% of what you are drinking. What is the percentage of âKombucha Tea Powderâ in 1 serving of Huel Powder?
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The New Testament doesnât prohibit any food. In fact, St. Peterâs vision from God in the Book of Acts rescinded the kosher dietary laws.
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Iâm so sorry to hear that and to see the official response from Huel below. I use the U/U Huel, and I have for the last 2 years or so. I LOVE it. Even though I use the unflavored, I certainly hope that the new U/U doesnât have a different taste or texture.
FYI Huel. I think adding Kombucha is a great idea, Iâve doubled my order. Youâre not going to please everyone so might as well make the best product you can. Keep improving and you will never go wrong.
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Firstly, I sympathize with you. I can imagine getting used to a food and then finding that I can no longer take it. But, consider the following wikipedia article. It seems literally everything is forbidden by one religion or the other, all animals/vegetables/dairy.
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@Desert_Way @Solidarity just wanted to let you guys know that we have confirmed the Huel v3.0 Powders, except chocolate, contain no caffeine.
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Thatâs good news. Thanks for reporting back 
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That is good news. My other issue is corn, and you had said it contains a âsmallâ amount of corn. Would you be willing to share what the amount is so that I can determine if the amount is small enough for me to feel okay with it? Thanks!
Unfortunately I canât sorry. There is no more corn than in v1.1 so itâs less than 1%.
This has been a fascinating thread, and I would like to thank all of the Huelers who have shared here. I completely understand giving up Huel if it were to contain something that I felt I could not have because of my beliefs. In fact, I really admire those who have such strong convictions that they are willing to give up something that they truly enjoy (like Huel) because of their beliefs.
I know that the comments have been all over the place, and Iâve enjoyed reading the lively debate. Iâm also so impressed with the readers who arenât familiar with the Mormon faith and yet took the time to research the âteaâ restriction so that they could better communicate and understand the perspective of others.
This is just another reason that I really love you guys in the Huel community. You are smart, compassionate, and you donât mind questioning things (respectfully) so that you can form a more complete understanding. I feel really good to be a part of it!
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This made me crack up.
That is all.
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The Huel forums never cease to amaze me⌠Biblical scriptures and religion? Really?
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Itâs the US forum, what do you expect 
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Why is it our place to tell them how to make their product.
I agree with your sentiment that it seems odd to knowingly alienate users, but did they KNOWINGLY do it?
Think about all the Muslims that can use the product because there is no gelatin in it.
It seems sort of arbitrary what we are bothered by. Im sorry the OP can no longer use a product they like. I am sad when I cant eat shrimp at restaurants when theyre included in tasting menus or whatever (allergy) but thatâs my problemâŚ
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